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Demodex
Nov 29, 2011 15:02:07 GMT -5
Post by ladydon on Nov 29, 2011 15:02:07 GMT -5
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Demodex
Nov 29, 2011 15:05:00 GMT -5
Post by ictdobe on Nov 29, 2011 15:05:00 GMT -5
My last dobe had it chronically and we always orally used ivomec and then cephalexin for the secondary staph infection.....hopefully Monica can weigh in here as well
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Demodex
Nov 29, 2011 15:14:18 GMT -5
Post by ladydon on Nov 29, 2011 15:14:18 GMT -5
Yea. I got him on Ivomec and ointment to reduce itchiness and inflammation. Poor guy had to be sedated since he couldn't sit still while getting tested.
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Demodex
Nov 29, 2011 15:52:54 GMT -5
Post by Andreina on Nov 29, 2011 15:52:54 GMT -5
Awwwww DD. Scarlet sends kisses to get better soon! Poor dude had to get a sedative. At least you caught it early enough... and he is getting treated. I know when scar had staph we had her on the Cephlaxin as well for 3 weeks, but I have no idea about mites. I'm sure someone on the forum has had experience with them though... That's too bad, I was just going to ask you when you wanted to get together .
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Demodex
Nov 29, 2011 19:34:01 GMT -5
Post by dobermoms on Nov 29, 2011 19:34:01 GMT -5
Ahhh....Poor Diesel....I hope his itching has stopped as that must have driven him crazy....We all hope gets over this soon....Kazi sends kisses and hugs....If Dante could get over his male ego I'm sure he'd send the same...lol...
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Demodex
Nov 29, 2011 19:57:16 GMT -5
Post by Lisa on Nov 29, 2011 19:57:16 GMT -5
Gino had demodex when he was a puppy. It's not contagious... unless he has the secondary infection like staph. Demodex mites live in hair follicles and may damage it what causes bald spots. Demodex is not itchy or inflammed. It happens when a dog gets secondary infection. I didn't use medications to treat demodex. Gino had puppy localized demodex which he outgrew. That's a tricky skin issue. I would recommend to contact holistic vet. You need to boost his immunity. Usually dogs with weaker immunity get it. You may use pyoben shampoo (benzoyl peroxide based). Only vet clinics have it. I was using 5% benzoyl peroxide cream on Gino's bald spot. You can buy it from any pharmacy. The secondary infection will go away with a treatment in no time. It will take time to get rid of demodex. Don't panic you will get there. Good you captured it early. Diesel doesn't know about it and it doesn't make him unhappy... not seeing Scar what makes him sad
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Demodex
Nov 29, 2011 21:11:02 GMT -5
Post by Carolyne on Nov 29, 2011 21:11:02 GMT -5
Sorry too hear the Diesel is not well, in a sense. I hope all goes well with the treatment. We are thinking of you and the Diesel. Take care.
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Demodex
Dec 1, 2011 23:45:45 GMT -5
Post by ladydon on Dec 1, 2011 23:45:45 GMT -5
Thank you everyone!
Diesel is not scratching terribly but he did manage to break the skin so there's a bit of an open wound...it'll heal in time. The important thing now is boosting his immune system (like Lisa said) and hopefully kill all the mites with Ivomec.
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Post by toyzshopgary on Dec 2, 2011 9:01:30 GMT -5
Lana what are you using to boost D's immune system?
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Demodex
Dec 2, 2011 10:13:07 GMT -5
Post by ladydon on Dec 2, 2011 10:13:07 GMT -5
Lana what are you using to boost D's immune system? He eats Acana so some of the vitamins and minerals such as Vit A/D, zinc, and etc are already present so I looked into others that aren't present or if they are present, I just add a bit more from time to time. I always balance it out to make sure he doesn't get too much of one thing. I considered before feeding him the raw food diet as numerous studies have shown it can boost a dog's immune system since their bodies were sort of "made" to digest that type of food than commercial pet foods but D doesn't like it so that idea was thrown out the window. Ever since I got D, I've been giving him Ester C (form of Vitamin C) which helps with joints, coat/skin, antioxidant protection...overall an immune system boost. Echinacea is also another popular one. It fights bacterial and viral infections. It has a mild cortisone effect so you could say that's where it's anti-inflammatory effect comes from. It's been known to heal wounds and skin problems so it's definitely going to help D especially now. Omega fatty acids we all know help. I've been giving him flax seed and cod liver oil since he was small. There's this Reishi mushroom but haven't quite found it yet but apparently hit helps inhibit growth and proliferation of cancer cells so its definitely a good agent in preventing cancer. It's also an antihistamine so it's good if your dog is showing allergy symptoms or have skin problems in general. Specifically for the demodex mites, neem oil diluted with water, soap/shampoo help kill demodectic mites. It has an anti inflammatory and pain relieving effect so if your dog has eczema, hot spots, minor cases of mange its definitely a useful external skin treatment. Lots of fluids also...keeping him hydrated and getting rid of toxins is also another way of me helping him. Honestly, there's so many things. I mean vaccines can only do so much and sometimes, they don't even work so I just do what I can and really with things, it comes with age. He's young so I'm just doing my best in making sure he eats healthy (none of that junk), gets his supplements and hopefully he'll have well developed immune system by the time he reaches adulthood.
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Demodex
Dec 2, 2011 11:11:02 GMT -5
Post by Lisa on Dec 2, 2011 11:11:02 GMT -5
You did your homework Lana Sorry to hear he developed an open wound. Banking soda may help with itching. I was using Silver Gel. Did you ask your vet about Benzoyl Peroxide? ... but if Diesel has open wound I would be careful what to apply. I was using Collostrum, Norwegian fish oil and Ester C to boost immunity. Also I switched him to raw completely. My vet told me fish oil is better for dogs than flex or cod liver. It's confusing for me when people say dogs don't like raw food. They may not know what it is at the beginning. Raw doesn't have a special flavour as kibble. It take time for some dogs to get taste of it. Once they do they would never go back to kibble. My dogs eat kibble in the morining... that's a painfull process to watch. Raw food disappers in seconds and they always ask for more. You may want to find info about Demodex on www.nzymes.com. I was buying supplements from them for a while.
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Demodex
Dec 2, 2011 14:43:17 GMT -5
Post by ladydon on Dec 2, 2011 14:43:17 GMT -5
Thanks a bunch Lisa! My mom as some people know already is a vet but unfortunately she doesn't practice anymore. She left her practice behind and moved on to CFIA so for most treatments, vaccinations, and/or minor problems she can deal with but major surgery or problems that require immediate attention, I seek help from her colleagues who still practice. It doesn't help that she is out town at the moment but at least Diesel is well taken care of by a trusted vet. You could say I'm getting all the help I need but figured I'b bring up this issue in case someone out there may come across a similar situation and it'd be better if there was a thread about it so they'll be more prepared when it happens. Also, its good that I brought it up because now I'm getting everyone's advice/opinion and we all know not all vets follow the same practice so more solutions to the problem the better It's good that you pointed out Benzoyl Peroxide since I haven't heard about that. Diesel is currently on Ivomec to kill the mites and now because there's an open wound, I have him on some anti-inflammatory/anti-itch ointment (can't remember the name) since he managed to scratch himself quite a bit the other day. His case is not too bad as its localized for now but its definitely worth mentioning what you said. With respect to boosting his immune system it's good you mentioned fish oils as I forgot to add that. I've seen a dobe myself who was given that and you can really see the difference in their coat alone. As for feeding him raw food...I tried. Not just once but several times. I've tried patties from the Global and I must say they smell delish even for me and nope...didn't want it. I've also tried this other place that sells good raw food and it was actually recommended by a friend who has rottie doing Schutzund and Diesel didn't like it. I slowly introduced it to him and at first he tried bits and pieces then after that nope...didn't want to touch it. Tried giving it as a treat and nothing either. Who knows, maybe I'll try it again someday but for now, it's definitely not on his food list.
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Demodex
Dec 2, 2011 21:20:02 GMT -5
Post by toyzshopgary on Dec 2, 2011 21:20:02 GMT -5
I was asking about the Immune system boost methods specifically related to Zeus. When he was boarded at Monica's he beat up his the top of his muzzle behind his nose from rubbing on the crate door. It has turned into a localized staph infection. I was expelling it and peroxide spray but it wasn't really getting better.
This week I started using Hibitane after a good expel and peroxide wipe and it's about 3 days of hibitane on the spot about 4 times a day and I can see progress.
Zeus isn't on any specific things to boost his immune at this point and hasn't been since spring.
He's had probably 3-4 bouts of staph since a puppy and was on meds to clear up the 1st 3, that got pretty involved. The last one was last year fall going on 2 years old. It was on his neck and I'm sure it was somewhat of a reaction to brass buckle fastners on his collar. I cleared that one up with expelling and peroxide and no more brass collar hardware.
I don't want him on meds ( think it was Celephexin the last times) if i can avoid it as he's 3 years old now and I think with some immune boosting vitamins / holistic things as opposed to formal meds from the vet and continuing the hibitane cream things will clear up.
That's why I was aksing what you are using to for Immune system boost Lana. Zeus gets flaxseed oil and garlic outside his kibble and stew but at this point that's his only extras. He's on Acana Grasslands for quite a while now.
Fill me in on where you are getting the Ester C and Echnicia the brands and the doseage you are using and frequency. I would like to get Zeus on that for a while.
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Demodex
Dec 2, 2011 21:27:31 GMT -5
Post by Lisa on Dec 2, 2011 21:27:31 GMT -5
THat's great you are receiving a good vet care. Diesel is lucky boy. Monica recommended Pyoben shampoo when Asha got mild staph infection. It helped. I know people who was using it for demodex. It's benzoyl peroxide based shampoo. I noticed a difference when I applied the cream on GIno's bald spot. vetmedicine.about.com/od/dogdiseasesconditions/a/Demodex.htm"Mild/localized cases: Shave affected areas. Wash skin with a benzoyl peroxide shampoo to help "flush" out the hair follicles and keep secondary bacterial infections under control. Generalized cases: Like the localized cases, shave affected areas and wash skin with a benzoyl peroxide shampoo to help "flush" out the hair follicles and keep secondary bacterial infections under control." Have you ever tried to feed him ground beef or chicken? Raw feeding is known to help with many skin issues. That was a reason I switched Gino to raw. His coat is fabulous now. Asha had mild staph when she was 4 months. No recurrence.
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Demodex
Dec 2, 2011 22:04:15 GMT -5
Post by Andreina on Dec 2, 2011 22:04:15 GMT -5
We are feeding Scarlet Acana grasslands right now also..... I cook up some ground chicken or turkey every few days, keep it in the fridge and add a couple tablespoons to her meals... It helps her get more excited about kibble, and her coat and skin is amazing now from it.
Meat in Zeus' diet could help Gary? Take a look through Monicas puppy booklet also... I was skimming it today for Lana as I have her copy... I read some stuff about supplements for the winter, etc. I know theres some good info in there on natural supplements.... its worth checking out I think.
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